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	<title>Comments on: CiteULike Ranking System</title>
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	<description>Avec des vrais morceaux de plathelminthes dedans!</description>
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		<title>By: Matthieu</title>
		<link>http://www.le-doc.info/2007/01/17/89-citeulike-ranking-system#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthieu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and what about a number-of-visits ranking system&#160;? It will have some other kinds of bias, of course, but it will easily point out the "hottest" paper (in opposition to "the best"), as initially intended.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;oh and "if we look good" looks a bit strange. maybe "if we look carefully"&#160;? I hope it helps.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and what about a number-of-visits ranking system&nbsp;? It will have some other kinds of bias, of course, but it will easily point out the &#8220;hottest&#8221; paper (in opposition to &#8220;the best&#8221;), as initially intended.</p>
<p>oh and &#8220;if we look good&#8221; looks a bit strange. maybe &#8220;if we look carefully&#8221;&nbsp;? I hope it helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Doc'</title>
		<link>http://www.le-doc.info/2007/01/17/89-citeulike-ranking-system#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Doc'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, trains are made for moving from a point A to a point B, not writing in English, I assume :) Thank you, anyway.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;While talking about neighborhood in CiteULike, here is a site that could be of interest&#160;: &lt;a href="http://itst.org/culneighbors.php" hreflang="en"&gt;CiteULike neighbors&lt;/a&gt; (just fill-in your username).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Richard Cameron came up with a whole bunch of new ideas, mostly about the best way to score papers filled under different categories. The concept seems promising&#160;:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A paper filled under Bio -&#62; Cell Biol, with 20 hits, and under Bio -&#62; Physio with 3 hits, will obtain a score of 23 hits in bio, plus its respective scores in each category. And as you can see, the subdivision, asked by a great majority of members, is in progress.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It could be more informative than just a tag-related voting, mainly because a tag like &lt;em&gt;2beta&lt;/em&gt; (one of mines, actually mhc-related) is less likely to be shared among a lot of people than &lt;em&gt;evolution&lt;/em&gt; (maybe the most used tag in citeulike).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The best I kept for the end. The actual value of a vote is now depending of its age. To avoid, of course, that &lt;q&gt;citation classics&lt;/q&gt; blocks the first place. Each vote has now an half-life of a few days. So, the &lt;q&gt;votelist&lt;/q&gt; is more likely to become a &lt;q&gt;v-hotlist&lt;/q&gt; (this one is so poor).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The &lt;q&gt;social software&lt;/q&gt; inspiration is maybe due to the fact that R Cameron is fond of them, and tries to apply them to his baby. Anyway, with a few tricks, I think the two ideas are not incompatible/irrelevant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, trains are made for moving from a point A to a point B, not writing in English, I assume <img src='http://www.le-doc.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thank you, anyway.</p>
<p>While talking about neighborhood in CiteULike, here is a site that could be of interest&nbsp;: <a href="http://itst.org/culneighbors.php" hreflang="en">CiteULike neighbors</a> (just fill-in your username).</p>
<p>Richard Cameron came up with a whole bunch of new ideas, mostly about the best way to score papers filled under different categories. The concept seems promising&nbsp;:</p>
<p>A paper filled under Bio -&gt; Cell Biol, with 20 hits, and under Bio -&gt; Physio with 3 hits, will obtain a score of 23 hits in bio, plus its respective scores in each category. And as you can see, the subdivision, asked by a great majority of members, is in progress.</p>
<p>It could be more informative than just a tag-related voting, mainly because a tag like <em>2beta</em> (one of mines, actually mhc-related) is less likely to be shared among a lot of people than <em>evolution</em> (maybe the most used tag in citeulike).</p>
<p>The best I kept for the end. The actual value of a vote is now depending of its age. To avoid, of course, that <q>citation classics</q> blocks the first place. Each vote has now an half-life of a few days. So, the <q>votelist</q> is more likely to become a <q>v-hotlist</q> (this one is so poor).</p>
<p>The <q>social software</q> inspiration is maybe due to the fact that R Cameron is fond of them, and tries to apply them to his baby. Anyway, with a few tricks, I think the two ideas are not incompatible/irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Enro</title>
		<link>http://www.le-doc.info/2007/01/17/89-citeulike-ranking-system#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Enro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As you mentioned, the purpose of social tools e.g. CiteULike is perhaps more to enable "collective intelligence" through the magic of actions of millions of individuals and to connect/track related papers, tags and so on than to ask each of us to vote for his/her favorite paper — which is exactly the reason why I prefer del.icio.us and its hotlist to Digg and Digg-like websites! In CiteULike, I like to watch tags or people I'm interested in rather than having the pseudo-voting-buzz stuff. On the other hand, if I want hot papers with comments and discussions, I'd rather look into blogs and specialized tools like Postgenomic (for instance, Postgenomic's literature agregator http://www.postgenomic.com/papers.php ).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;P.S. A few mistakes I have noticed: - "arXive" instead of "arXiv" (and what about an hyperlink?) - "if the vote involve" instead of "if the vote involves" - "to classify him" instead of "to classify it" - "hotest" instead of "hottest" - "functionnal" instead of "functional"&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you mentioned, the purpose of social tools e.g. CiteULike is perhaps more to enable &#8220;collective intelligence&#8221; through the magic of actions of millions of individuals and to connect/track related papers, tags and so on than to ask each of us to vote for his/her favorite paper — which is exactly the reason why I prefer del.icio.us and its hotlist to Digg and Digg-like websites! In CiteULike, I like to watch tags or people I&#8217;m interested in rather than having the pseudo-voting-buzz stuff. On the other hand, if I want hot papers with comments and discussions, I&#8217;d rather look into blogs and specialized tools like Postgenomic (for instance, Postgenomic&#8217;s literature agregator <a href="http://www.postgenomic.com/papers.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.postgenomic.com/papers.php</a> ).</p>
<p>P.S. A few mistakes I have noticed: - &#8220;arXive&#8221; instead of &#8220;arXiv&#8221; (and what about an hyperlink?) - &#8220;if the vote involve&#8221; instead of &#8220;if the vote involves&#8221; - &#8220;to classify him&#8221; instead of &#8220;to classify it&#8221; - &#8220;hotest&#8221; instead of &#8220;hottest&#8221; - &#8220;functionnal&#8221; instead of &#8220;functional&#8221;</p>
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